Do ya know what that is?

It’s the sound of the crickets chirping after I asked any…any body to defend Obamacare…How about one of your friends? C’mon someone out there in wordpress land must know some one who knows someone who at least supports the idea of this idea?

I mean, okay, so I got more likes for my last post than any other, but after visiting some of these sites I am often stunned and wonder what was it about what I wrote that these individuals “liked”. Reading what they and their “followers” are saying I just can’t understand why they aren’t searching for the “hate” button…or

I have possibly a new theory, perhaps if you are following some fifty plus blogs it becomes quite a chore to actually read every post ( I know, I am following (seriously) about ten or so and am always a page (or more lol)behind in my emails, and it does become tempting somedays to just click “like” without actually reading…but ya know what? I like reading these blogs, (and commenting, hopefully not to the host’s annoyance[aww jesus here’s that dysu again lol])and only one of them is written by another cantankerous old curmudgeon bitchin’ ’bout how we’ve lost our way as a country. And though we are obviously very different we share this one thing in common…

Here is an example of fun facts that John has dug up…

  • City officials in San Francisco are seeking to make ex-convicts a “protected class,” joining blacks, Hispanics, homosexuals, the disabled and transgendered, and pregnant women. Ex-cons already have the special status when applying for city government jobs, but a council of top city officials wants to extend the protection to make it illegal for landlords and private employers to ask about a person’s criminal record.

I mean…umm…lololol…jumped up Jesus on a pogo stick…I mean…really? Really?

  • The state of Nevada last year denied a request for a vanity license plate that said “GOPALIN” because, in the view of the Department of Motor Vehicles, such a plate was “vulgar or obscene or expressing superiority of political affiliation.” That policy didn’t stop the agency from issuing personalized plates that said “AL GORE,” “GO OBAMA,” “GOGREEN,” “DMOCRAT,” and “KERRY.”

Another fine example of free speech and tolerance in action

  • The Omaha, Neb., public school district spent $130,000 in federal stimulus money to buy manuals to instruct teachers and school administrators on how to be culturally sensitive. The book, The Cultural Proficiency Journey: Moving Beyond Ethical Barriers Toward Profound School Change, says that teachers need to work for social justice in order to overcome a white-privileged society. The book says racism, sexism, homophobia and ableism are forces of oppression in schools, and that institutions in America “channel wealth and power to white people.”

    Doin my homework!

This is the killer one…this has been the silent killer of America, the NEA, I know, I know sounds paranoid…okay they have been one of New America’s best propagandists…still you think that’s over the top? Consider that not only have public schools, since the late sixties (remember blue eyed/brown eyed experiment) have been teaching (white) America(boys) how evil it(they) has been(are), it has also managed to figure out how to instill a sense of self esteem and entitlement to a generation of kids who are completely incapable of the type of accomplishment such self esteem would normally spring from…

Wait what you don’t understand the last half of that sentence, okay go back and read it again I will wait…

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Thanks but no Spanks

March 15, 2012

Okay ac ya f-tard I am going to try to stay nice…but I just have to come back to you once more…so bear with me folks but…I think it’s important to what I am trying to accomplish overall with my blog and that is that we cannot learn to discuss and solve our issues as a country with f-tards like you refusing to use yer critical thinking…

“OK first let me clarify my use of the word ‘violence’ in the context of parenting.

I am referring to the parent using physical force (or the threat of it) in place of reasoning and peaceful negotiation with the child. That physical force may include physical violence as a punishment (or the threat of violence to act as a deterrent). It could also refer to violence/ physical force used by the parent to impose his/ her will upon the child forcefully in the moment. Of course there is also the psychological component associated with these physical acts or threats (fear, pain, terror, abandonment, humiliation, anxiety, stress, confusion etc).

Now hopefully I finally understand yer argument, you believe any and I will repeat any type of discipline, negative; and only reasoning and peaceful negotiations with children to be appropriate. That’s all I was looking for, I mean, again I will say that yer statement is hilariously ridiculous…and also that you are right it is impossible to debate your argument…

As far as I can tell you support the use of this kind of violence on children and have used these kinds of parenting techniques yourself on occasion. In other words you support these parenting techniques and consider them preferable on occasion.”

Once again you fail to actually read, or choose to overlook, what I have actually said. I have said on more than one occasion during our dialogue that I believed as you did, and raised my children using these techniques reason and peaceful negotiations…I was pretty clear on that,  your lack of attention to this detail is just one of the reasons I am posting yer response again. I have, not just in these posts, but in the posts that I suggested you read (to get some background) have repeated on numerous occasions that it is the failure of not only these child raising techniques, but the overall dismal failure of much of my generation’s ‘nu-philosophies’ (we were actually suppose to improve society) that is a big part of the impetus for writing this blog (dysu) in particular.

What I realized upon my observing my own children struggle as they entered the adult world is that I failed them by not imparting certain key lessons of life, and I think they are the worse off for it. In hindsight, (what I have tried to explain to you) is that despite all I believed going into it, now having raised children and seeing the end result of “reason only” child rearing…I am ready to eat some crow and give a slight nod of acknowledgement to the thousands of generations (including even my own dysfunctional parents) who understood some discipline was necessary (again how much and of what type, when, where, that is debatable)…

I myself have never yet claimed to know anything specifically, I mean other to say I don’t know all I thought I knew, get it? Oh and that your logic sucks.

I'll try being nicer when you try being smarter

Speaking of debate, what you have also failed to realize is that I am not debating you (yet I mean how can I when you are right) on the topic of child rearing. I am only debating you on your use of faulty logic to prove your assertions. Your very premise, that all “discipline is is violence” is based on the theory that all discipline is applied inconsistently and with malice and this “fact” is incorrect, so it is impossible to debate.

Secondarily, is your stance on reasoning, like much of your theoretical argument,  it lies at the heart of the b.s. that all children are born with the equal capacity for intellectual thought and reason (another “pop” psychology” theory”).  A nice fairy tale but unsupported by actual fact.

Just so I make it clear abandonedculture, you can send me all the links and studies you want showing how beatings hurt kids (not my argument), you can send me all the studies you want supporting your side of the “reasoning vs. discipline” debate (I can do likewise but that’s not [though you have failed to grasp it yet] the topic here). But unless (that is if you are actually interested in an honest and open discussion) you can understand my two main points; 1. You have to use concise points addressing the topic at hand (the topic in this instance, the original article you had linked to was about clarifying laws regarding discipline, not beating, yet your original argument consistently and only resorted to the most graphic uses of over or excessive discipline [not allowing for the countless and well documented studies that suggest otherwise; that limited, proactive discipline done without malice or aggression is not only healthy but needed for a child]) 2. You need to understand your debate opponent (do your homework, read his position carefully, try not to make assumptions, if you do ask for clarification in case you are wrong).

Finally that leads me to my last point. I am still assuming you are a twenty something (grad student?) with no kids, I might be wrong, tried to find out really did. And if I assumed you believed 9/11 conspiracy (which you and every one else reading knows what I mean no matter how you try to obfuscate with some light and off target mockery) it is only because you posted and positively commented on a video supporting such views.  I assume these things because of what you yourself have said, not only here, but in other posts. I know you think your opinions are really wise, you can tell by this statement “It is an uncomfortable question, which I acknowledged when I asked it.” lol it is to laugh…

Please don’t respond, I get yer message, as goofy and unrealistic as it is, any discipline is bad discipline, you go and raise yer kids with that theory, hovering around your infant and toddler constantly, getting in endless theoretical loop arguments with a two year old extolling the virtue of carrots over potato chips, pointless debates with a thirteen year old over the importance of learning to spell when the computer just does it for them, only to lose the debate in the end and have a child who can’t spell anything past yer most basic words, that’s what I did, that’s what we as a country have been doing for the last thirty years or so, and it’s going great.

If I had my chance to do it over again I would say what my parents said “Do it because I told ya to.” That’s a pretty good lesson for life lol. I know you don’t agree…I don’t give an f….let me know what you think after you have raised some kids

And again ac, just so we’re clear, I am not debating you on yer topic, ( I can’t possibly take anything you say seriously due to the lack of intellectual merit) I was just trying to point out the flaws in yer debate style, so if you feel you must respond to this don’t if all you have to say is that ” Mmm, beating children is bad, Mkay”, cause we both agree on that .

Come back when yer older

Okay so where were we? Oh yea the expert..the Constitutional scholar, the Reagan conservative, the right wing Roosevelt, the self proclaimed expert on all things governmental Mr Newton “Newt” Leroy Gingrich. Now again don’t get me wrong Cats and Kittens, I like Newt, read his books, think he’s smart, an important voice in today’s theater of ideas (pronounced with a European accent if done correctly) as it were. But he is not, cannot possibly be for limited government, not when he is also for larger government. Newt, God bless his soul is one of countless well educated monied elite who truly believe that it is up to Government to direct the people.

I’m sure an example would be good here, and we all know how much I like wasting words on those, but here goes I’ll try. There are a lot of Americans who believe in an open immigration policy, just open borders no restrictions, these people for the most part identify with the democratic party, I know I used to be a democrat and an open border supporter (oh wait I still am, though I also consider myself a conservative [put that in yer judgmental pipes and smoke it]). Okay wait where was..oh yes…there are a lot of people who support open borders. There are also a lot of people, mostly conservative this time, who favor closed, even (facistly in style) walled borders (don’t even get me started on that asshat idea). Overall however there are very few people who favor some sort of amnesty situation again. But Newt, he  doesn’t care about that, boldly enough, he tells us what is best…I mean they all do it…but there is no one who does it quite like the Newtster.

Now to be fair much of the Newtfervor is based on the the three fold idea that a: he’s not Romney, b:he’s not Romney and finally c:he will clean the Presidents clock in a debate. Okay lets examine this shall we. Both a & b can be supported by strong arguments, so I mean ya got me there but c’s where ya lose me.

Now don’t get me wrong…again…but Newt is like the really smart guy in debate class that annoyed the crap out of all the other kids, the President, Mr. Obama, he’s like the cool kid…if the American people were all debate coaches no doubt Newt would win. But most Americans, I believe at this point, would struggle to spell debate let alone understand the complex issues discussed in one. Instead, all Pres. Obama will need to do is, like the kid on the spot in Bill & Ted’s excellent Adventure, throw up his hands with an “America Rocks” and the crowd will go wild. I’m sorry republicans and conservatives, intellect no longer wins the game (if it ever did?). So even if Newt can somehow convince half his own party that they don’t really want the policies they think they want…that they want his policies instead, I do not believe he will be able to take the election.

Okay so where does that leave us I mean true, small fed conservatives (by god American independents who know the libertarian party’s got no chance in hell of getting a viable candidate) I mean there is no one else is there no true limited government candidate, no one else who..okay well..might as well deal with him I mean the guy just won’t go away so lets talk about he other “constitutional expert” in the field Mr. Paul, Ron Paul, SenatorPaul whatever I mean jumped up Jesus get the hint Buddy.

Listen Mr. Paul, I’ll put aside the fact that your district got and gets a lot of federal pork money that you only recently seemed to be concerned about and buy into the idea you want to, in essence, disassemble most of the fed, I’m on board baby love it, I’m mean yer a little loony and look like ol’ Pat Paulsen (who also ran a comedic campaign fer president) but I’ll go ahead and buy what yer sellin…or would…and here unfortunately is where you lose me and every right thinking American.

Here is a quote I pulled from the top of the Ron Paul website under the heading “foreign policy”

If you hit someone and kill their family, they will hate you and probably hit you back in the future.

That’s what blowback is all about. It seems like such a simple concept, but many of Ron Paul’s opponents for the Presidency vehemently denied its validity.”

This is his main argument for his foreign policy stance. This is simplistic idealistic drivel at best, as a foreign policy directing how we deal with other countries in the world who, even if they don’t hate us, covet our resources and fertile farmlands, is a further weakening of America’s stance in an increasingly hostile world.

I mean but here he is, still, the guy won’t  away, he’s everywhere (like Droopy), his “Ron”-ites, or “Paul”-ists (whatever I’m sure they have a trendy catch phrase name) seem to be everywhere and the left loves him…but again why shouldn’t they, he a: hates the military and b: will never ever beat President Obama. I mean if there was one candidate who can make even Newt look presidential it’s good ol’ Sen. Paul.

So again we are back to my original concern. I hear lots of confident talk by conservative radio hosts and commentators but I for one do not share there sense of surety, their (unfounded as far as my experience goes) faith in the modern American voter.

Half of the young people I work with cannot spell…okay wait let me rephrase that many of the young adults I work with cannot spell; I mean simple everyday words. They have no idea what is going on in the big wide world unless it involves entertainment, sex, alcohol and or drugs (or best if its all of them combined). They don’t only not know about things like the deficit, taxes, profit margins, etc they don’t want to know about them.

But nearly all of those kids love Obama, and they love the idea of redistribution of wealth. All it means to them is that they can get  that new 70 inch flat screen, that new smart phone.

Does any republican candidate, whichever old tired rich white guy we decide to send up against Obama have anything to compare to that, free money and a chicken in every pot displayed in high def?

I don’t think so, but you know me, I’m dysfunctional so hell I could just as easily be wrong about all this…

So what solutions do I offer, I don’t know, that’s what I’m saying, you’ll have to go with yer gut, right now, if nothing changes I’m voting Cain & Trump for 2012, at least that presidency would be something new, oh and entertaining for the kids…


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